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  Revealed: Why Top-Shelf Tony Bought So Much Macallan Whisky!

  by The Fall Guy in

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  2. beliefs

  it was for all of the governing body members - because they now know they won't be getting any wings from heaven.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqjwkiwids0.

  make the call tony - resign!.

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  The Fall Guy

  It was for all of the Governing Body members - because they now know they won't be getting any wings from heaven.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQjwKIwIds0

  Make the call Tony - resign!
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  For active JW's - Is your "SLAVE" wrong in saying this...

  by The Fall Guy in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  w74 10/1 p. 607 questions from readers - “ death, [a person's own death] is the full payment for sin.”.

  or are these scriptures wrong?.

  (matthew 26:28) “...this means my ‘blood of the covenant,’ which is to be poured out in behalf of many for forgiveness of sins.”.

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  w74 10/1 p. 607 Questions From Readers - “ Death, [a person's own death] is the full payment for sin.”

  Or are these scriptures wrong?
  

  (Matthew 26:28) “...this means my ‘blood of the covenant,’ which is to be poured out in behalf of many for forgiveness of sins.”

  (Ephesians 1:7) By means of him we have...the forgiveness of our trespasses...”

  (Acts 2:38) “...be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for forgiveness of your sins...”

  (Acts 13:38) “Let it therefore be known to you, brothers, that through this one a forgiveness of sins is being proclaimed to you,

  (Colossians 1:14) by means of whom we have...the forgiveness of our sins.

  The org's dogma repudiates these Biblical statements about the ransom sacrifice. Hmmm. I need a drink.
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  Watchtower analysis on Tony Morris

  by corruptgirl in

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  2. friends

  i never post on here.

  i am sanchy's wife.

  i posted my coming out story about 3 yrs ago.

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  The Fall Guy

  Don't sugar-coat it Corruptgirl. Very good discussion of TM's "not practising what he preaches."

  Based on logical reasoning of the evidence in front of us and our JW insights, I have reached the following conclusions:

  1) Tony Morris was buying for his own use. If it had been for other people's benefit, a trusted Bethelite "helper" would have been sent on a different day to a store much closer to make the purchase.

  2) Tony Morris clearly has a very unhealthy reliance/addiction to strong liquor.

  3) Tony Morris and his ilk are parasites - unlike the apostle Paul etc. who worked to provide for themselves. They are living off the "body" of the congregation, as do all of the Worldwide Order of Special Full-Time Servants of Jehovah’s Witnesses who gladly opt out of the scriptural commands to provide for themselves!

  Rubbing salt into donors' wounds, he squanders their hard-earned cash on his addiction.

  4) Tony Morris is now a liability and embarrassment to his fellow G.B. parasites. Time to "retire."

  A.A. won't judge you if you call.
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  Do old time present day active JW`s genuinely believe in overlapping generations ?

  by smiddy3 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  for the life of me i can not come to terms with old timers in the "truth" who could swallow this interpretation of scripture about an overlapping generation .. when jesus spoke about "this generation" .

  are their any real bible students among younger ones any more ?.

  here are 3 bible scriptures that confirm a generation is approximately 40- 50 years long give or take a few years .. 1. matt:1 :17 abraham born 2016-18 bc jesus born 2 bc approx.

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  My favourite: (Job 42:16) “After this Job lived for 140 years, and he saw his children and his grandchildren - four generations.” 140 divided by 4 = 35.

  Two days after the announcement of the "overlapping generation," I was out on field service with an elderly Elder. I asked him, "Brother, do you understand how the overlapping generation works?" He simply said "No."

  Nothing more was said.
  
  
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  Surely, Surely, Surely!

  by The Fall Guy in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  if the "slave" said it, it must be true!.

  w72 10/15 p. 629 par.

  5 - the long waiting in hope soon to end: .

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  If the "slave" said it, it must be true!

  w72 10/15 p. 629 par. 5 - The Long Waiting in Hope Soon to End:

  “Just as surely as the foretold globe-encircling flood came in the days of the righteous preacher Noah, just as surely as the foretold destructions of ancient Jerusalem came in the days of Jehovah’s prophets and of the apostles of Jesus Christ, just so surely this foretold world-wrecking tribulation will come - in our own generation.”

  (Would that be an overlapping generation or just a normal everyday one?)

  (Deuteronomy 18:21, 22) “How will we know that Jehovah has not spoken the word?” When the prophet speaks in the name of Jehovah and the word is not fulfilled or does not come true, then Jehovah did not speak that word. The prophet spoke it presumptuously. You should not fear him.’

  J.W.'s, did you notice = NOT x 5
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  Dating question from a bible student

  by Biblestudent1 in

  1. social
  2. relationships

  i have done bible study for about four months now.

  the married couple who do it with me are lovely.

  i have attended meetings for about two months.

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  The Fall Guy

  Hi B.S. Welcome.

  As a JW B.S., expect to be fed B.S.

  You are very fortunate to have come here and met others who've been through the JW minefield.

  Regain control of your life very quickly.
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  To Rank & File JW's:

  by The Fall Guy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  web site, it says this: on the night before he died, jesus told his followers to commemorate his death.

  he said: “keep doing this in remembrance of me.” - luke 22:19. according to the wtbts/jw's, jesus had two distinct groups of followers with entirely different "hopes" – the “little flock” and the “other sheep.” .

  exactly which group was instructed to commemorate his death by re-enacting the eating & drinking of the bread and wine - and to “keep doing it?” .

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  The Fall Guy

  On your J.W. web site, it says this: On the night before he died, Jesus told his followers to commemorate his death. He said: “Keep doing this in remembrance of me.” - Luke 22:19

  According to the WTBTS/JW's, Jesus had two distinct groups of followers with entirely different "hopes" – the “little flock” and the “other sheep.”

  Exactly which group was instructed to commemorate his death by re-enacting the eating & drinking of the bread and wine - and to “keep doing it?”

  Can you provide any scriptural justification for yourself and millions of others to attend this ritual as "spectators"?
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  I think I made up my mind

  by paradiseseeker in

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  2. friends

  a month ago i travelled alone to italy for three days and i had the opportunity to visit the beautiful florence and re-visit many parts of rome.. but most importantly, i had the opportunity to stay alone and think about my situation and to make up my mind.. i've had very clear for almost 5 years that i will eventually leave the religion, but i couldn't decide when.. but now i know : i will leave on april 20th, the day after the memorial.. that day i will talk to my parents (this is by far the hardest thing to do) and soon afterwards i will talk to my closest friends, then i will send my disassociation letter.

  i know that i will let them down, i will hurt them, most probably some of them will cry... but i need to live coherently for the first time in my life.

  i'm sure that living in this contradiction is affecting and will affect my mental health and it's time for me to help myself instead of others.

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  Take things slowly and consider all the potential options and outcomes.

  You have a P.M.

  I wish you well on your chosen course.
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  How many of 'the 6 degrees of shunning' did you go through?

  by Dubtown in

  1. watchtower
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  https://youtu.be/co_j2vurbm0.

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  The Fall Guy

  Just three degrees so far; (I feel a song coming on - "When will I see you again")

  1) Marked for grassing on Elders to the Branch & C.O.

  2) Shunned for fading

  3) "Stoned to death" by family members for saying "negative" things (truths!) about the org.

  I really miss the loving worldwide brotherhood - not!
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  Not since 1939 -1945............

  by The Fall Guy in

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  2. current

  .......has the news in the uk been dominated every single day for years by a single topic, i.e.

  brexit.

  it's all-consuming.. and the way things are going, it's going to last way longer than ww2.. we've got at least another 1-2 years of "negotiating a deal" to endure - imho..

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  The Fall Guy

  Hi SBF - As I've said to a good friend who's a staunch SNP/independence supporter:

  1) If you get independence, you'll be under Brussels' thumb instead of Westminster's.

  2) Want to join the Euro? Because England will probably refuse the use of Sterling.

  3) Do you want a Scotland/England hard border?

  No.1 says it all - Scotland would not be independent.

  Ask Malta and the Maltese people how they feel now about their longed-for membership of the E.U.

  Their island is no longer their island.